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My dear friend has forced me to write this:

Yes some Groups on d/a are AWFUL/others are brilliant.

I might remind you: ALL the Staff/Founders work on d/a for NOTHING!
D/a has never ever 'seen fit' to award Good Groups with anything......like 'core membership' etc.
I have endlessly tried to get this changed because I know a LOT of (SHIT)Groups would go 'defunct' overnight.

IF anyone is unhappy with Groups:
1: Leave (this is so simple)
2: Join or watch a Group you like?
3: Try running a Group of your OWN!
4. As for 'expecting' a reason for declining (forget it) we all have lives to live. IF d/a gave us 'something' in return it is possible we would have better Groups and would be able to do more.
5. I once started a Group....years ago: This Group was ONLY about 'finding/searching d/aGroups for the best ones.
We set-up an 'off/da' place so that members could report....abuse etc. without Groups knowing.
Hello.........this did not work.  You all want to know why?  People could NOT be 'bothered' to report anything!
This was a great idea.

Years of being here....I know so many things.

Artists want to come on d/a....post their work/without explanations/anything. Hello!..... we are living in a world where people do not think and artists are selfish.  IF you want your art 'accepted' sometimes 'explanation' is OK?  IF you do NOT like d/a there are hundreds of other websites which will accept your work without comment!

One of the reasons I started: JennyStokes-Fav's is because I love looking at art. I request volumes of art.  BUT how many people even 'think' about watching? Very few. Admittedly these are MY choices and my Staff's.
(On the whole: I am of the view that a HUGE number of people are NOT interested in others art!)
I think this Group is consistently good. I try to look at every type of art. IF I don't know about 1 area(Fan art for me) I will invite a new staff member who does know! Yes I do need a GOOD consistent new Staff Member (do talk to me?)


Please STOP 'ranting!'

Eveyone of YOU who have consistently 'supported' me on d/a. I thank you with my :love:

Jenny
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sesam-is-open Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2016
I'm happy you are my friend and this is the most important thing to me.:hug:
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jennystokes Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2016  Professional General Artist
Selina :heart:
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sesam-is-open Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2016
:):heart::tighthug:
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AlicesPlace Featured By Owner Edited Nov 19, 2016
I "watch" a number of groups and am a member of one (since I was invited to be.) I'm happy to watch and don't really understand the submissions thing anyway...
I look at ALL deviations as they come in, but am a hobby kinda photographer so don't consider mine need "putting out there" particularly.
Its always a delight when someone new wanders into my gallery and connects with what they see there though. ;)
I'm on dA only as a form of self expression, not to publicise myself or my snaps or make money. And I made some lovely friends all over the World here, an unexpected bonus. :aww:

I have to add I am happy when groups I watch request something I made to show in their galleries. Its encouraging when someone who knows better than me sees something that connects folk and wants to share it with their audience. :aww:

I made a number of nice friends through watching groups. :aww:

:hug::rose:
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jennystokes Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2016  Professional General Artist
You are a 'rarity' Alice I think?

Yes it's nice when Groups 'request' images.

:heart:
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AlicesPlace Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2016
Lol, thats what my husband says, I'm not sure he means it in the same way as you... :laughing: ;)

:heart::love::rose:
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jennystokes Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2016  Professional General Artist
Ha! :dance:
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AlicesPlace Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2016
:giggle: ;) :hug: :iconflowersplz:
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eyepilot13 Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I apologize for  my lack of empathy
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jennystokes Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2016  Professional General Artist
Good........because I am truly 'fed up' with people complaining and doing NOTHING!
:love: you Eyeeeee. :kiss:
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CapnDeek373 Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2016  Professional General Artist
The only real gripe I have about groups is the inability to search them.
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jennystokes Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2016  Professional General Artist
Too true! Yes Giggle 
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sirenabonita Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2016
:iconshinyheartplz:  could be worse ~ they could make us pay to participate ~ OH ! Wait! they do! Core Membership and Supergroup Status :D
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jennystokes Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2016  Professional General Artist
Ha! :dance::D (Big Grin) 
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Eric-was-here Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2016
Me ??? rant????
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh YEAH!

Funny you mention us getting nothing cuz thats not QUITE true.. What I get when all is said and done is the knowlege that i did something good and that something has my name on it.. I have found and shared some incrediable artworks with others who have found it the same way. I can look thru my daily requests n submissions and marvel at what others have entrusted o me to showcase. I can see each work as I request it and just take a moment before I hit that button to just enjoy the damn thing and let it impress me.
I get to talk with some SERIOUSLY talented people of every genre and talk with them as a person and not a blathering fanboy kissing butt ( same goes for the models I speak with too.. I mean really ??? ME ??? talking to THE hottest and most beautiful women ??? sometimes I still cannot believe how lucky I am)
and thru all the people wanting to submit their whole gallery, Those who bitch when their works are turned down. the Prima Donna artists who think they and ethir stuff is the be all and end all of the art world. Those fucktard people ( good example here is Briannabater ) who think the whole world need to follow them and say and believe what they want JUST because they are a model.
It has it's downsides as well. But I know that somewhere at some time someone got a request for something they did from my group. and that was granted and someone else saw it and shared it as well and those sharings while I am NOT artists myself ( muse-Words) means I can be part of that sharing magic and by doing so I can bring some beauty to someone who will enjoy it and share that between the creators and my groups members/watchers.
Thats good enough for me.
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jennystokes Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2016  Professional General Artist
Eric..........please..........STOP this language/anger?
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Eric-was-here Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2016
there is/was no anger OR language other than English.
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jennystokes Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2016  Professional General Artist
I would have read this if you had not been so aggressive..................some words come out as anger/aggression?
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Eric-was-here Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2016
perhaps they can be taken in such a way.. But jenny.. you HAVE read/seen me exercising "anger/aggression" ( remember that person who is/was playing parrot/quisling for DA and how enlightened and good they are cuz they bought her with a core membership) and trust me.. there is a WHOLE lot of difference between me being normal and me being...targeted.
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jennystokes Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2016  Professional General Artist
I agree.................F2U Icon: Froggo 
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LindArtz Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Just needed to say, Jenny....About Eric-Huffman's comment...

Although true, we should all learn to curb our tongues,... We all are only human. And will have the occasional slip now and then. (Lord knows I have, and have journal postings to remind myself *sigh* ) We can especially slip if we should happen to be 'in-the-moment' - dealing with a particular crapola head; and that anger fresh in our minds.

I'm not trying to be difficult. I get pleasure though out of people's responses to our journals/status's, postings.  In fact, we are lucky when we do get them, as most have the mentality of 'not wanting to get involved' (even if they secretly do have an opinion) ; having the thinking 'to avoid any possible trouble that may come of it'; and so they refrain altogether.

Having people provoke us to anger is a normal part of life. And the occasional slip quite normal (and healthy too, I dare say, if done in moderation)  I just think we shouldn't deter one another from expressing ourselves. (and of course, if said 'language' isn't TOO offensive, or TOO common place in our dealings. )

I'm sure you didn't mean it this way at all, what I'm about to say... having gotten to know you as much as I have, thus far.  But reading your response to him,...and reading it objectively... I found that it put me off. As it came across as rather controlling and not very inviting.  Especially when not followed by any other response, to what he had written.

...Anyway...Just a bit of perspective, Jen.  Because if it struck me this way (and I know you a bit now to know better, that you of course are not controlling) . It might too, strike others the same way.  Then we may not get to hear their thoughts at all. :hug::hug:!!!
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Eric-was-here Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2016
Jesse Pinkman - Icon 
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jennystokes Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2016  Professional General Artist
Ha! Well put.

I have known Eric for a while now and we always have this 'thing' with words!
I can be controlling (of course) but right now am trying for less of the 'angry words'...........people need to calm down after what has happened.

I have absolutely no quarrel with 'anger' and when speaking angrily myself I know it puts people off but rather out than held in.

I am always interested in what Eric has to say BUT this time I had had enough and didn't bother to read it at all.

:love:
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LindArtz Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I just think it confuses people when they may read a journal of yours in which you may express anger and use "language" yourself, then ask others to please not do the same.   In fact, doing so, unwittingly invites them to do the same.
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jennystokes Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2016  Professional General Artist
Yes........I guess so.
:hug:'sss
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LindArtz Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:glomp:!!!
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jennystokes Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2016  Professional General Artist
:kiss:
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